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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.16 12:14:00 -
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 Originally by: DeBingJos
1. Insert alt into hostile alliance
2. turn on bot
3. ????
4. profit
Nope nothing wrong with that...
Not just that, but it will simply mean that botters operate in unaffiliated alt corps rather than in the main alliance (in many cases, they already do).
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.18 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
BTW the incident is especially delicious because Leetcheese is a director of TEST, an alliance that openly encourages the membership to bot, and actually has an alliance rule against reporting bots.
Can we save the "[Alliance hostile to me] encourages botting/RMTing/hacking/satanism/puppy kicking/etc" rhetoric for CAOD please?
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.18 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: HELIC0N ONE on 18/05/2011 10:55:06
Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat
Anyone can go to eve-news.com and listen to the recent TEST meeting where your directorate says don't report TEST/GOON botters and if you do you will be purged from alliance.
"Please don't be ****s. Don't report Goons. Like seriously, if you do that and I find out about it you're gonna be kicked **** out." - Leetcheese
This wasn't actually about botting - a few members of TEST were reporting every goon ratting in Fountain as a "bot" and stirring up stupid blue-on-blue drama because we were taking up the favoured systems, hence the quote above.
As already stated, a 'don't report bots' alliance policy is completely unenforceable anyway.
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.18 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Remyne Zhe Dacella
Absolutely despicable tactic to grief a corp and alliance so poor that it allows botters to join. Of course the corp could be more careful that it doesn't allow botters to join.
How is a corp recruiter supposed to prevent people joining who have the intention to bot? Psychic powers? Or is this like US immigration where you have to declare you're not there to overthrow the government macro-rat before being granted entry?
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And the corp could kick and report them itself as soon as the pattern of behaviour manifests. Of course the botter and all associated accounts are going to get banned. And if the corp doesn't, after the first time it gets fined, the Alliance will now have a financial incentive to self police instead of pretending to wash your hands of it.
This would be a good thing, and I'm glad you mentioned it.
Right, so every time a new recruit joins your corp you're supposed to assign somebody to watch over them around the clock to make sure they're not botting?
Again, what stops me from applying to join a hostile corp on an account unconnected to my main, going to a quiet system, switching on a bot, and then reporting the corp for tolerating botters and getting them fined?
You're shifting the burden of responsibility to the entity that has no reliable method of policing the issue. That's dumb, and will be massively expolited for political ends.
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.18 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Murseilius Chan
Wow, this Leetcheese character sounds a bit shirty about something 
Wouldn't be the 16+ B confiscation from his botters and alts would it? You guys are just so frigging unbelievable. You have the hide to come here and quote current 'caught out botter no 1' as proof that you don't condone botting in any way.
Anyone who hasn't done so yet read the previous linky to this losers comments. No 'I did something wrong and got busted', but all 'some moron ratted me, he sucks'. No problem with the culture in TEST, No Siree 
For the record, I already called leetcheese a stupid crybaby in the responses to the Kugu article he posted, and I'm glad that he (albeit unintentionally) has done so much to highlight the risk of asset confiscation. If you want to tackle botting, you should link that article as widely as possible, maybe some botters out there will read it, look at the amount taken from him and think twice about what they're doing.
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.18 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
The botter doth protest too much...
Perhaps HELICON never did anything besides botting while out in 0.0, since he doesn't seem to know how anyone would go about finding those who do in a corp.
Never botted (on this or any other account). Do enlighten me about these magic bot detection tools available to corp directors, though (if you start talking about monitoring time spent online or taxes or not responding to local/convos I'm going to laugh really hard).
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.18 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Nice dodge attempt, but who said anything about TEST "bylaws", as if they are the only way that behaviours are encouraged or deterred.
What about the alliance forums, for instance? Could it possibly be the case that botting is widely and positively discussed in there...?
The fact is that TEST members are among the most enthusiastic botters in 0.0, and now that a director has been caught, he has been given a penalty strong enough to genuinely deter. Lets hope the other TESTies get the message.
I do hope so, because I rather like the other things about TEST, and I've always thought it a shame that you thought it was appropriate and acceptable to bot.
TEST is not exactly a difficult alliance to get access to, if they are openly encouraging members to start botting on their forums or other communication channels then one would expect it to be leaked all over the internet by now.
Of course there are members of TEST that bot (including a director lolololol), but are they really any worse than most 0.0 alliances?
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